Warning: This post-mortem podcast contains spoilers for Westworld’s Season 4 finale tonight Que Sera, Sera”

We are far, very far from the park. Remember, Western Town from the first season? HBO’s season 4 finale Westworld finished tonight after a human-host melee and more questions about who’s alive and who’s in the virtual valley of the afterlife. On a special crew call tonight, we speak with Westworld co-creator Lisa Joy to sort it all out.

You can listen to our conversation here:

Season 4 took place seven years after the Revolution in Season 3, where we saw Maeve (Thandiwe Newton), Caleb (Aaron Paul), and a weary Dolores (Evan Rachel Wood) pull out the massive predictive supercomputer Rehoboam. Well, there was more revolution in last Sunday’s episode and tonight’s with human and host bodies lying around.

Says Joys, “Humans and hosts, they’re just going to destroy each other. Life on Earth as we know it is over.

Megalomaniac host Charlotte Hale (Tessa Thompson) has deposited one of the last host pearls we know of, Dolores/Christina’s, in the Valley of the Beyond and sealed her at the Hoover Dam, as has Bernard (Jeffrey Wright) advised him. The Valley Beyond is, well, like a guest paradise. It is also called the Sublime. Charlotte also destroyed her pearl and that of William/Man In Black (Ed Harris). However, they failed to host paradise as we know it.

And now? “Sentient life on Earth is over,” Evan Rachel Wood’s Dolores/Christina says at the end of tonight’s episode, “but some of it might be preserved…in my world.”

“There is time for one last game – a dangerous game with the highest stakes. Survival or extinction,” continues Dolores/Christina, “This game ends where it began, in a maze-like world that tests who we are. It reveals who we will become. And we see that she is back at the western city park of Westworld.

Is this the end of Westworld? Was the AI ​​abuse of power still in a vicious loop? Joy tells us tonight that she and her husband/co-creator Jonathan Nolan have yet to hear back about the season five renewal. However, at the start of the season, she told us that “Jonah (Nolan) and I have always had an end in mind that we hope to achieve. We haven’t quite reached it yet. »

Here’s a recap of the fates of various characters tonight:

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Dolores/Christina (and Teddy). Teddy helped Christina see the light and realize she was Dolores’ soul. Christina has an epiphany when she realizes she’s a “program running things behind the scenes.” “Your thoughts are real…and the effect you can have on the world is real,” says James Marsden’s Teddy. Christina reunites with the show’s iconic maze logo which jogs her memory. Regarding the world around her, Christina says, “It was me, I did it. Hale didn’t design it. Part of me had to search. That’s why Christina also created her roommate Maya (Ariana DeBose); to help him understand himself. After Charlotte uploads Dolores’ pearl to Valley of the Beyond, Teddy becomes all twinkling, and Christina then wakes up from a dream and sees the prairie version of herself. “I am here to tell you the truth about who we are; we are a reflection of the people who created us,” Dolores tells Christina. Although Teddy “disappears” and becomes all sparkly, Christina/Dolores thinks he’s real “and somewhere in the sublime.” The episodes end with Dolores walking through what looks like an alternate version of Times Square which then melts away and turns into Westworld’s western park. “The Valley Beyond is isolated from the world, and these hosts are safe, and Dolores is safe, well, Christina,” Joy tells us.

Joy also duly confirms that Dolores is “in the valley beyond. So she’s alive in pearl terms, her processor type has been uploaded to where all the other hosts have gone, and so what’s alive? Does his physical being exist? No, and it hasn’t existed all season. She’s literally been in a walled garden, but now that walled garden has been sent into some sort of digital infinity where she can presumably create whatever world she wants.

Charlotte Hale (and William) — Are they dead? Really serious? Seriously, there must be a drawer of William and Charlotte pearls somewhere. A drone host rescues Charlotte’s slain body at the top of the episode and revives her (she was killed last Sunday). “Make me stronger, leave my scars, I want to remember my past. Keep my face. When I find William, I want him to know that it was I who killed him,” says Charlotte as she gets reconstructed by the drone hosts. She’s determined to get the guy, William, whom she blames for driving “everyone as mad as him.” She finds an iPad with a message Bernard left for her. “If you see this, it means Maeve and I are dead. It won’t be long before every host is dead. It’s not the world you wanted, Charlotte, it’s the world you created, the question is what happens next? »

Later at the Hoover Dam where William and Charlotte face each other, the Man in Black believes that he has evolved, even if he is no longer who he was. Charlotte believes the same, that she evolved, and indeed, as he tries to stab her with a large knife, she is literally as durable as The Terminator. “You gave the hosts carte blanche to hunt and kill humans,” Williams says, “You are as screwed up as our creators. I will wipe the slate clean. “Is that your end goal?” Extinction?” Hale retorts. As mentioned above, she tracks down William, kills him, and deposits Christina/Dolores’ pearl in the Sublime/Valley beyond. She sits next to the Hoover Dam after the mission, exhales, cracks her skull open, takes out her pearl, and crushes it. “How do you die as a host? But if you crash your CPU like that; therein resides the soul of the host, so to speak. So, yeah, no more Hale,” Joy tells us on Crew Call.

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Clementine Pennyfeather (Angela Sarafyan) is dead, killed by the daughter of Caleb C (Aurora Perrineau) with a bullet to the head. She wanted the location of the other outliers of Caleb and C, which she believed were off the grid.

End of Westworld season 4

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Caleb and C: They head to a boat where C is leaving with his girlfriend. However, Caleb doesn’t want to go. Earlier, Caleb learns from C that his wife/mother died of cancer. “Your father died a long time ago,” Caleb tells him. It’s a tearful goodbye.

We learned that Hale has directed several versions of Caleb this season. So which one did we end up with here? That of the human?

Joy responds, “This is how this technology works. It actually started in the season two episode with Mr. Delos, and where the man in black is having a test, a test of immortality, right? They’re trying to do this secret immortality project where if you replicate a person perfectly and put them in this processor, you can basically allow that person to live forever. And what they found was that by combining the mind and soul of, say, a person’s processor into an artificial body, like a body rejecting an organ donation, it tended to reject that body, and that’s why it would break down, and they can sort of stretch the breakdown for longer and longer periods of time. But in the end, it’s like the spirit knew it wasn’t real and was provoking itself into dysfunction, and so that’s what Hale was doing with Caleb. She would bring him back again and again and watch him deteriorate, all the while searching for a truth she believed he had hidden from her.

So what about Maeve, Bernard and Man in Black? Are they dead, dead, dead?

Joy teases, “There are ways to bring characters back. There are faces we will see again, but not all of them. Some deaths must be respected.

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